Post details: Come protest against blatant stupidity

04/24/07

Permalink 06:39:08 pm, Categories: Announcements [A], 281 words   English (US)

Come protest against blatant stupidity

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WHO: People who accept evolution over superstition and myth.

WHAT: Rally for Reason.

WHEN: 9:00 am (EDT) May 28, 2007

WHERE: Outside the gates of “Answers in Genesis,” Bullittsburg Church Road, Exit 11, off of 275 West from 1-75, Petersburg Road, Boone County, Kentucky

Please note: This is a very rural area. No motels, no department stores, no nothing. No facilities, no food or drink, no shelter, open air only, no protection, chances of survival doubtful.

People from all over the country are invited to join outside of the gates of “Answers in Genesis” (AIG) in Northern Kentucky to let the world know that many rational Americans do not share the primitive world view that the Earth is only a few thousand years old, and that humans and dinosaurs existed at the same time, as presented by the 27 million dollar plus “Creation Museum” opening Memorial Day, May 28, 2007.Various groups, representing both religious and secular orientations, will join together to protest this destructive world view.

The organizers stress that they do not challenge the right of AIG to present their worldview. “They can teach that things fall up if they wish,” said Edwin Kagin of Union, Kentucky. “We are simply trying to show that the nonsense they are vending is not accepted by those who do not share their fundamentalist religious views.”

AIG believes that the book of Genesis in the Bible is literally correct. See: www.AnswersInGenesis.org . For contrast www.talkorigins.org

More details will be provided as they become available. So pay attention, make some signs, bring your musical instrument, water bottle, and trail mix, and plan to come to Kentucky y’all.

For more information contact: reasonrally@hotmail.com

Comments:

Comment from: Jesin [Member]
Another one? Well, can't be there. Meh. You have my support, of course.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 18:43
Comment from: phreedm [Member]
Oh Boy...another rally proving how accepting and tolerant atheists REALLY are...even though there's a disclaimer (The organizers stress that they do not challenge the right of AIG to present their worldview), I guarantee you that at least one of the 6 protesters who show up will have a sign stating exactly the opposite...

Once again this is going to improve your worldly image...I can't wait for the next poll...it's probably going to even be lower then Cheney's...what a bunch of maroons...

I'm sure this is going to get about as much national coverage as the "National Atheist" convention did...
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 20:51
Comment from: RayCeeYa [Member]
Wasn't the guy who was building that museum indicted by the IRS for tax evasion?
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 20:55
Comment from: phreedm [Member]
Hmmm...no, he was the guy who interviewed Dave on the pod cast...
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 21:04
Comment from: reason [Member]
dave this guy is just trying to earn a living shearing sheep.people who buy in to this want to live in denial.man i think you have good intent but you can't help people who don't want help.go ahead an protest but the crowd thats in to this likes thinking everyone else is going to hell.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 21:52
Comment from: phreedm [Member]
Here's a great example of how speculation is reported and then taught as fact...

Found: The New Earth


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=450467&in_page_id=1965

How many non-believers, who can't understand what faith is about, will place their faith in a couple of astromomers having water cooler talk, dreaming about a distant world...?

Along these same lines...can anyone point to any event in the universe that was truly random?



Permalink 04/24/07 @ 21:59
Comment from: alexatheist [Member]
Actually this "museum" is hardly as rural as Dave makes it sound. It is ten minutes from the Cinncinati Airport so I would urge all atheists in southern OH to show up.

Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:16
Comment from: Apple_Christmas [Member]
phreedm:
How many non-believers, who can't understand what faith is about, will place their faith in a couple of astronomers having water cooler talk, dreaming about a distant world...?

I do think phreedm has a point here. What I think he means to say, and I agree, is that some atheists can be just as credulous as religious people, especially when they want very much to believe that there are other planets out there with beings a least a little like us. It's a fulfillment of their childhood science fiction fantasies (and maybe their adult science fiction fantasies!).

The truth is there is zero evidence for life outside our planet, and all the talk of the likelihood of sun-like stars and earth-like planets doesn't amount to much. The basis of belief should be evidence.

And how's this for likelihoods: even if there is life outside our solar system, it seems extremely unlikely that we will ever be able to actually find out.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:18
Comment from: David Silverman [Member] · http://www.atheists.org/
Well, actually, I kinda chuckled at the article on the new Earth. In fact. I'll blog that.

Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:32
Comment from: alexatheist [Member]
Actually the scientists are not claiming to have found a new Earth with life, they have found an Earthlike rocky planet which could possibly support life. The biggest difference between believing that there is probably intelligent life on other planets and believing in a god is that science supports the evolution of extrterrestrial life and does not support the god hypothesis. in a universe with an estimated 300 billion planets statistically there is a probability approaching certainty that we are not alone.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:42
Comment from: reason [Member]
are they able to send a probe.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:47
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
reason,
We don't have the type of technology that could go that far. If we did, it would take a long ass time to get there so we wouldn't even know what showed up in our lifetime.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 22:56
Comment from: reason [Member]
EAC thats what i suspected.a shame though,even though i'm not a believer when i look at nighttime sky i am filled with awe and joy at being even a small part of a amazing universe.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 23:00
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
reason,
Same thing with me. It always makes me think about how fragile and beautiful life is, how insignificant we are in the grand scheme of things, how there's just so much more out there than ourselves and our lives. It's a completely nonreligious feeling though and that's hard for a lot of people to understand.
Permalink 04/24/07 @ 23:06
Comment from: What [Member]
Oh look Phree ... I mean Anne Marie is back from Crawford, Texas.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 01:08
Comment from: What [Member]
"are they able to send a probe."

Phreedy is dying to be "probed".
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 01:09
Comment from: alexatheist [Member]
This "museum" has an anamatronic T. rex in the garden of eden along with adam and eve!
Apparently it's big teeth were used for crushing coconuts back then because it wasn't a carnivore until after the flood. Bawhahahaha!
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 07:43
Comment from: Boise Jim [Member]
Trying to reason with young-Earthers is like administering medicine to the dead.
Totally useless.
Look at the mountains of evidence at the age of the Earth, and they still refuse to see any of it.
I find it very amusing that they knock on science any chance they get, but when they are sick and/or dying, they run to it.
Hypocrites?

Nah, not the fundies.

Don't worry, this museum will die a quick death.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 09:53
Comment from: TXatheist [Member] · http://txatheist.blogspot.com
This is the down size of capitalism. It's like an infomercial by John Edwards or Kevin Trudeau. People are so willing to find comfort in something they don't realize that it's completely unfounded. I think the state of Kentucky needs to build a natural history museum right next to it. I'm sure the citizens of KY would vote that in.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 10:00
Comment from: TIMx13 [Member]
As Alex indicated, this thing is not in the middle of nowhere geographically, although I would agree that it's off the map intellectually. It is 2 exits away from CVG, and 10 minutes away from hotels, restaurants, shopping, etc. It's about 20 minutes from downtown Cincinnati.

I've mentioned this in other posts, but I live about 10 minutes away and this really is an embarrassment to our community. I hope it dies a painful death, so I will be there to do what I can to hasten it's demise and point out that not all Kentuckians believe this nonsense.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 10:19
Comment from: TIMx13 [Member]
How about some sign ideas? I'd like to place a permanent billboard near this place, but we can start with protest signs...

Off the cuff:

- You CAN'T be serious...
- BIBLICAL SCIENCE: UNCHANGED SINCE THE DARK AGES!!!
- Hey Kids, don't worry, you'll learn real science in college.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 10:29
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
alex,
Holy ignorance Batman! Is that really what they believe? How can anybody seriously believe all that crap? It makes the idea of the tooth fairy sound more realistic.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 12:01
Comment from: kjb034 [Member]
I live about 20 min east of downtown Cincy in OH. I'm one of the most outspoken atheists I know, but I doubt I will go to this rally. It seems pointless. Strangely enough, I do like the idea of a billboard.

TIMx13: I like the last 2.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 13:17
Comment from: blotzphoto [Member]
Hi! Good luck to y'all. I'll be busy that weekend, but i'll be there in "Spirit". BTW, Memorial Day weekend is the occasion of "Taste of Cincinnati", one of the longest running Food Festivals in the nation. So make it a weekend of fun!
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 14:11
Comment from: thetheist [Member]
What is "blatant stupidity"?
We should have a protest against "blatant condescension."
I see no way atheists can prove religion "blatant stupidity".
There is no proof against God, just lack of present physical evidence thereof.

Dogmatic atheist zealots... ;)
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 19:31
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
thetheist,
We weren't calling christianity or the belief in god blatant stupidity. We were calling the people who believe that dinosaurs lived side by side with humans and cracked open coconuts for the humans blatantly stupid.
Permalink 04/25/07 @ 19:41
Comment from: phreedm [Member]
Comment from: alexatheist

Apparently it's big teeth were used for crushing coconuts back then because it wasn't a carnivore until after the flood.


Have you actually heard this? Sound's like an urban legend to me started in an attempt to discredit the science behind the museum...

It's amazing what people will believe when they let their presupositions get in the way...



Permalink 04/25/07 @ 23:46
Comment from: karen [Member]
phreedm
Have you actually heard this? Sound's like an urban legend to me started in an attempt to discredit the science behind the museum...


Seems like I read it in some lame article about the museum.

Alex
Wouldn't the T_Rex have developed a taste for meat after the original sin in Eden and not after the flood?

Permalink 04/26/07 @ 00:02
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
Found this on the intermaweb.

"Museum guides tell visitors that before Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise all of the dinosaurs were peaceful plant-eaters. In Genesis 1:30 God gives ‘green herb’ to every creature to eat and so there were no predators. When a curious museum visitor asks, why exactly T. rex had six-inch long serrated teeth, the guides go on to explain that T. rex used his big teeth to open coconuts. Apparently it was only after Adam and Eve sinned and were cast out of paradise that the dinosaurs started to eat flesh."
http://dinobase.gly.bris.ac.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=127
Permalink 04/26/07 @ 00:17
Comment from: cry4turtles [Member]
evil-this is the most hilarious thing I ever heard. I hope George Carlin feels better soon so he can rip this one apart and make us fall off our couches in uncontrollable laughter.
Permalink 04/26/07 @ 08:02
Comment from: evilatheistconquerer [Member]
cry4turtles,
George Carlin feels sick? :(
I didn't know.
Permalink 04/26/07 @ 08:42
Comment from: st.lucifer [Member]
phreedm:
Along these same lines...can anyone point to any event in the universe that was truly random?


Its creation.

You're welcome.
Permalink 04/26/07 @ 18:41
Comment from: vjack [Member] · http://www.atheistrev.com
Rural Kentucky, huh? Anybody else seen Deliverance? Of course, I can't really talk since I'm in Mississippi.
Permalink 04/27/07 @ 09:40

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