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I'm confused as to why he thinks that H.R. 1592 will limit free speech. Can somebody please point me to the part of that legislature that would limit free speech?

Crap.
Same day even.
I did a post on this -
http://biblioblography.blogspot.com/2007/05/walker-texas-ranger-has-delusions-about.html
'Course, I've been criticizing Norris for some time now.

Oh crap he's crazy. Honestly, I had trouble reading the whole thing. Just so stupid.

That article was written by a shallow-minded bigot. HR 1592 will deprive fundy christians of their god-given right to bash queers, not limit free hate speech and incitement to hate crimes.If there is an atheist conspiracy and agenda, I will gladly join in.

Hate crime legislation is unecessary and unconstitutional. HR 1592 could be used to silence unpopular speech if the speech is deemed to be casue a sense of intimidation. Xians have every right to say and believe that homosexuality is wrong just as I have every right to think and say that religion is ignorant and stupid. We already have laws which punish assault and we really don't need more legislation that carries different punishment based on the attackers beliefs and thus creates Orwellian thought crimes. That's not an America I want to live in.
Oh, and Chuck Norris is a fucking idiot.

alex:

HR 1592 could be used to silence unpopular speech if the speech is deemed to be casue a sense of intimidation.

I'd advise you read the entire thing.

H.R. 1592, SEC. 8. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.

Nothing in this Act, or the amendments made by this Act, shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by the free speech or free exercise clauses of, the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Passed the House of Representatives May 3, 2007.

In fact, right now, they are coalescing and rallying at least 5 million of their troops to mount counter offensives to Christianity.

How come I didn't know about this?

Was there a signing bonus?

I wonder what the oath of allegience sounds like...

Damn, I want in on some of the action.

The `Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007' provides local jurisdictions with the right to apply for grants to assist with the technical, forensic, prosecutorial, or any other form of assistance in investigating or prosecuting a crime.

Under no stretch of the imagination can this legislation be said to outlaw Christianity. I find it wonderful that another closet gay like Norris is stating that this will do exactly that by keeping him and others from being able to denigrate and physically abuse homosexuals.

One more reason for rejecting Christianity. I refuse to be a gay-basher like them. I guess I am just too moral to go around kicking the teeth out of people for God. And damn proud of the fact.

This is nauseating. I used to like Chuck Norris because his "acting" is so untintentionally funny.

The hyperbole in these types of articles would be amusing if not for the potential readership who will actually believe much of it to be true. There are many among the brainwashed masses who will truly believe that we (atheists) have 5 million "troops" and that we're mounting "counter offensives to christianity." They'll actually believe that Dawkins and Harris are "militants", which suggests that we're all intent on violence. They pit the patriotic theists against the scheming atheists. I hope people will know propaganda when they see it, but I have my doubts.

And by the way, what is it about the ACLU that these people hate so thoroughly? If any attempt were made to outlaw christianity, wouldn't the ACLU be the first to come to the christian's defence? Or would they refuse to accept ACLU money?

Having read Norris's inane article I see a slim, but shining ray of hope for non-believers. Generally speaking we are a more educated group open to accepting actual evidence as opposed to cowering while begging for divine intervention. We are not hindered, as Mr. Norris appears to be, by lack of general intelligence, nor do we imagine senarios which have no basis in reason. Thus, common sense would lead me to believe that eventually science will overcome stupidity.

ren haven't you hear of army of one.oh thats right its been deployed to iraq.
guys should we have fun and tell chuck its actually 10 million and a fleet of black helicopters.

Ahh... the age old question: Who's dumber than birdshit on toast - Pat Booone or Chuck Norris?

VOTE NOW!!!

This would also be a good "If They Mated" segment on Conan.

What would happen if two of the dumbest, most bat shit crazy celebrities mated?

Answer: PHREEDM!!!

My version of the 1st paragraph. I'm working on the rest....

I'm sure no christian will find fault with it...

This past week an ABC News debate aired on "Nightline," which pitted Internet theists against popular atheists. While I'll have more to say about that battle of wits in my next article, it testifies to the growing number (30 million Americans) of those who profess there is no God. Add to that what I believe is possibly three times the number of functional theists, those who don’t believe in a God but practically don't show it, and America is facing a new non-religious horizon in which theism is becoming a formidable foe.
Though the majority of Americans continue to claim to be atheists, a Gallup poll discovered 45 percent of us would support a Christian for president, 55 percent would support a homosexual candidate and 72 percent would support a Mormon candidate.
Such a survey is a clear indication that most Americans are simply confused about what it means to be Atheist. It also shows that the non-secularization of society is alive and well, especially when almost half would endorse a theist president.

reason,
Chuck will see your 10 million militant Atheists with a fleet of black helicopters, and raise you a fleet of tens of thousands of stark, raving, bat-shit Christers, with a fleet of their own heavily armed, black helicopters. (Blackwater) I'm afraid we have some catching-up to do. :-(

A round-house kick to the head for this idiot. Gees!

while i enjoy making fun of ignoramuses (ignorami?) like norris, TimX13 is right:

The hyperbole in these types of articles would be amusing if not for the potential readership who will actually believe much of it to be true.

but it's not his most ridiculous statements (the "5 million troops," etc.) that worry me, it's his basic premise that atheists are attempting to "oppress" or "outlaw" christianity.

it reinforces the fundamental misunderstanding of atheism (that it is a quasi-religion) that plagues public discourse.

reframing the debate is our greatest challenge, and idiots like norris do us a great disservice.

The last line in the article tells what he really is.

"...his life and his ministry..."

He's a has-been movie star turned preacher.

OT
Jerry Falwell is dead.

Karen, I was just going to post the same thing. Just announced on MSNBC: Jery Falwell collasped this morning in his office, taken to the hospital, and is now dead.

Wow, god does work in mysterious ways. After reading this dispicable article, I was hoping for the demise of good ol' Chuck. Instead, he took Falwell.

Actually KA I have read the entire wording of HR 1592 and ins spite of it containg the following words it is still wrong: "Nothing in this Act... shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by the free speech or free exercise clauses of, the First Amendment to the Constitution."
This law would create further thought crimes which are not currently covered by existing hate crime laws. If I am attacked because I'm gay should the attacker's sentence really carry an additional 20 year inprisonment over what it would be if the assault was motivated by a desire to steal my money? What if I stab to death a xian who is standing on the street corner preaching against homosexuality? If I attacked this same person in order to steal his watch and he dies does it really matter what my motivation was?

Gee, I wonder what they're going to talk about on the news for the next week?!?

Sorry kidnapped troops. Your 15 minutes of fame, not to mention your lives, are over. It's on to more pressing matters.

Well, I'm sure we are now going to see and hear how great and wonderful the good 'ole rev was. What a loss he will be to the country, the world , and God's mission on Earth.

The truth is that he was a heart attack waiting to happen.

I feel no joy or satisfaction in his passing, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I thought the world will be a better place without his personal evangelizing.

I wonder if Marion Robertson and Billy Graham are their god calling a little louder for them.

CAB4
Thanks for adding the details.
The grandkids are here and I was going for brevity while they were momentarily otherwise occupied.

But actually, I agree with Ren. We're going to hear ad nauseum about Falwell for the nest week or so. I wouldn''t be surprised if he were laid in state at the capitol in DC, with shrub at the helm.

What I'd really like the news to say is "Jerry Falwell is dead" and leave it at that.

Of course, in stead, they'll be drooling over autopsy reports, giving glowing reports of what a great guy he was, etc. MSNBC was even interviewing Michael Reagan about him while they were awaiting official death reports.

Too bad we can't ask him how it feels to find out how wrong he was.

Yep, Karen, they're already doing that. I have MSNBC on right now...think I'll click it OFF.

Hahahahaha

"I shudder to think where the country would be right now if the religious right had not evolved," Falwell said when he stepped down as Moral Majority president in 1987.

That quote is hilarious to me in so many ways

Wow. I had no idea there were so many Atheist groups out there. Where were you people when I was growing up? (I know, keeping your mouth shut so you didn’t get a rap in the kisser for questioning the Bible.)

I feel sorry for Chuck. Anyone with so much hate and fear in their heart must be living a miserable life.

The world is a much better place today.

Well...I can't wait to hear the hate that's sure to follow as soon as Dave posts Falwell's death...

SonnyDenbow [Member]: I feel sorry for Chuck. Anyone with so much hate and fear in their heart must be living a miserable life.

Nodster [Member]: Wow, god does work in mysterious ways. After reading this despicable article, I was hoping for the demise of good ol' Chuck. Instead, he took Falwell.

Hmm, I question who often lives with so much hate.

Hmmm...exactly what lie...?

+++Breaking News+++

Jerry Falwell = Dead.

I wonder if he is shocked to find himself in hell?

phreedm

Well...I can't wait to hear the hate that's sure to follow as soon as Dave posts Falwell's death...

You're being awfully quick to throw your bombs today. I guess you must be following the shrub's lead of starting a preemptive war :)

Seriously though, while I have no respect for Falwell's opinions, tactics or rhetoric, and I certainly will not miss his undue influence, I neither hate him, nor wish him ill.

I'd much rather the guy was alive and recanted the error of his ways :) Now he'll never get the chance.

Yes, Jacob, responding to intolerance and hate is the equivalent to intolerance and hate. Typical Christian in a typical backwards, bizzaro world.

Second, it's called a joke. But you'd have to be intellectually honest, and not pathetically desperate to find any opportunity to take a shot at an atheist to understand that. Nimrod.

Well, when I heard this news, I somehow KNEW that a certain person-not-to-be-named would be here as fast as his widdle fingers could type. Just waiting for the hate.

Don't worry, he-who-shall-not-be-named. We couldn't possibly surpass the hate that good old Jerry spewed.

I just find it a bit odd to be dancing one someone's grave who just passed away. I would think there would be just a bit of respect for the recently dead. But then again, from what you say Nodster, I should assume atheists don't understand this. Jokes about people who have just died are the norm.

Yeah, sorry, this evil, compassionless atheist finds it hard to have respect for one single individual who had absolutely no respect for the lives of 3000 individuals, and the 3000 families of those individuals on September 11th.

Again, hello bizzaro world.

And I'll remember to lack respect for David Duke when he kicks the bucket, too! Oops! Was "Kick the Bucket" too disrespectful for you?

when bad people die, it's a good thing. falwell was a blight on our public discourse, and everyone is better off without him (especially the religious right--this was your spokesman?).

this has nothing to do with "respect for the dead." i respect people whose actions and words i admire, whether they have a pulse or not.

Was it Falwell or Swaggart who was caught with a prostitue in 1987? Moral Majority? Pfft!!!

Check your sources...

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/falwell-robertson-wtc.htm

I think HeatheNZ responds with a bit more commonsense. But hey, this is just my opinion.

ej, didn't you just step into a big mess there. When bad people die? Who decides the bad people? You? American Atheists Board Members (if such thing exists)? Did Falwell limit your ability to express your opinions? Or did he express his opinions and you didn't agree with them? Why do you get to decide who is involved in public discourse?

I find it a bit hard to suggest your argument makes sense. It appears more like subjectivism run wild.

I guess this also comes down to how we come to respect human life. I respect it because God created it. Others respect life because...well, I wonder. Because you only respect ones you admire.

It must be hell living in guilt. xtians live their whole life in guilt for something that did not even happen in a garden called eden. Guilt can really f up ones head, I guess, especially when they are reminded of it every day.

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/jerry_falwell/

I would think that Jerry would be deliriously happy to have been "called home", even though I just saw part of an interview with Christiana Amanpour (sp?) iin which he said he prayed for another 20 years to do his work.

I confess that when the news was breaking and they were only reporting that he'd collapsed in his office and was taken, non-responsive, to the hospital, I was hoping he was dead.

He was a man who brought only divisiveness and rancor, a man who thought himself so above everyone, he founded the "Moral Majority".

If he wanted 20 more years, he could have laid off the cheese fries and hit the treadmill.

That said, I'm going to try to listen to my mother whispering in the back of my head now, "If you don't have anything nice to say about a person..."

"Unfortunately, we will always remember him as a founder and leader of America's anti-gay industry, someone who exacerbated the nation's appalling response to the onslaught of the AIDS epidemic, someone who demonized and vilified us for political gain and someone who used religion to divide rather than unite our nation."—Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesb_ian Task Force.

That sums it all up, Bones. Thanks for finding that quote.

From Jerry's own mouth:

“[homosexuals are] brute beasts...part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.”

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

I know, I'm still trying to listen to Mom, but I didn't say anything about him this time, I just quoted him.

As the religious right is dying in America it's founder has also died and his death is something to be glad for. This hateful voice of homphobia and the grand demoniser of gays has been silenced forever. I hope that as this monster lay dying and gasping he had time to reflect on his hurtful lies that have done so much to estrange gay children from their families and cause young gays trying to reconcile their faith indoctrination with their sexuality to choose suicide instead. Here are a few quotes from falwell:

“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

“Homosexuality is Satan's diabolical attack upon the family that will not only have a corrupting influence upon our next generation, but it will also bring down the wrath of God upon America.”

“I do not believe we can blame genetics for adultery, homosexuality, dishonesty and other character flaws”

“[homosexuals are] brute beasts...part of a vile and satanic system [that] will be utterly annihilated, and there will be a celebration in heaven.”

"I believe that all of us are born heterosexual, physically created with a plumbing that's heterosexual, and created with the instincts and desires that are basically, fundamentally, heterosexual."

“I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the 1esbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.”

"I truly cannot imagine men with men, women with women, doing what they were not physically created to do, without abnormal stress and misbehavior

Good riddance. I would like to dance on his grave.

Ha. I like this one too:

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Well good riddance to you, sir.

Thx, Spanders

his two sons are taking over the business i hope they are more focused in helping the less fortunate.with the revenue base they have they could do alot of good if they want.most of the money i believe is tied up in real estate development maybe as time goes by they could shift more to charity work.

alex maybe now that some of the RR are shown to be gay themselves that kind of name calling will die down.all those gay people have family calling their kids beasts can't be good for business in the long run.

Falwell was an idiot. He was not a threat to me, because he was a fool leading fools. I am glad his influence will slowly fade into history. In a generation or two his movement will be seen the way we see the inquisition.

Chuck Norris is freaking crazy, no doubt about that. You have to wonder who is feeding him lines, off camera. After all the guy is not mentally able to construct a sentence on his own. Not that his writer can either.

jshanewhit chuck is crazy like a fox he will make a lot of money stirring up hate against us.

I don't think Chuck's in it for the money - he really believes what he's saying. I mean, he's not saying anything more wacky than what my father might say in a normal conversation with a fellow Southern Baptist, and I guarantee you that my father didn't get his lines from Chuck or Jerry. It's just the standard right-wing-evangelical preacher rhetoric.



Yeee Haaa!!

It appears Falwell is going to miss the on coming Armageddon.

I wonder if Jesus could have lifted him up to heaven at his weight?




I'll miss Falwell like I miss a root-canal.

Chuck: Kickin' Ass for Jeebus!

Those jeans are hilarious... you never know when you might have to round-house someone's face while wearing a pair of jeans!

God said "Let there be light."
And Chuck Norris said, "Oh,...OK."
And there was light.

Comment from: HeatheNZ

You're being awfully quick to throw your bombs today.

Throwing bombs...? Hardly. The comments that have been posted were so predictable...

So many on this board focus on the negative side of life. What else could they do, but focus on the negative side of Falwell's life...it wouldn't take much effort to find stories of how he's helped thousands of individuals...but then again...that would take forgiveness and taking the high moral road...which from my observations is rare in the atheist community...

Here's a question...

How many of us could withstand to have any and all of our comments thrown back at us...?

We have all made comments that we regret...comments that have hurt others...

Sure Falwell was the head of several organizations...but do our words hurt any less...does it make a difference if we hurt one person or twenty...?

As it is written...take the log out of your own eye before you see the speck in your brothers eye...

If anyone has NEVER made a comment that they regret...please post it here and now...

Say, isn't there someone from Idaho that frequents this board...?

I wonder if he know's what his state constitution says...

http://www.idahovaluesalliance.com/docs/IdaSuprCtQResp.doc

If anyone has NEVER made a comment that they regret...please post it here and now...

phreedm, you make it so damn easy.

phreedm

We have all made comments that we regret...comments that have hurt others...

Yes we have, but not all of us (meaning humans) charge money for our hurtful comments or include them in a televised sermon or claim them to be divinely inspired.

As it is written...take the log out of your own eye before you see the speck in your brothers eye...

Good advice. Perhaps you should take it sometime.

Since someone thinks we think of the negative side of life too much here, here's a bright little musical send-off to Jerry via youtube:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

from the end of Life of Brian.

Falwell had a bully pulpit and millions of people, including presidents, listened to his hurtful lies and modeled there lives around them. Falwell's words have torn families apart and caused rifts between gay people and their families. I want to take back my comment about dancing on his grave, instead I want to piss on it.

Falwell is dead! My whole blog for the past THREE years has been dedicated to Falwell quotes, Falwell paraphernalia, Falwell look-alikes, Falwell-Potential-Dates, Girls-Who Look-Like-Falwell, Falwell's Family, Falwellian Epilogues, Falwellian Sonnets, Falwell-Ate-My-Twinkie Reviews and my annual Miss Falwell Springwear Pageant...I am sooo depressed!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_PFLbitE8I

http://youtube.com/watch?v=96fj-ub642c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=h94KvYEbJ_o

Alexatheist,

Now that was funny! Thanks!

alex:
Maybe you missed the beginning:

"(1) IN GENERAL- At the request of State, local, or Tribal law enforcement agency, the Attorney General may provide technical, forensic, prosecutorial, or any other form of assistance in the criminal investigation or prosecution of any crime that--
(A) constitutes a crime of violence;
(B) constitutes a felony under the State, local, or Tribal laws; and
(C) is motivated by prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of the victim, or is a violation of the State, local, or Tribal hate crime laws."

You might note the phrasing constitutes AND clauses, not OR clauses.

In fact, right now, they are coalescing and rallying at least 5 million of their troops to mount counter offensives to Christianity.

How come no one told me about this? I feel left out. When does our counter offensive begin? Do I need body armor for this?

I don't believe for a second ole Jerry every regretted the hateful things that ever came out of his mouth. Phreedum, you're delusional.

5 million troops?
uhhh... anyone else think he's trying to get Xtians to start blasting heathens? Another preemptive war?

Maybe I should go back to digging my freedom tunnel

“Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions”
jerry falwell



Thank you Spanders

Jack Bauer named his cat 'Chuck Norris.' Why? Because He's a pussie.


When Chuck Norris files his taxes, he sends in a blank return and a picture of himself, crouched and ready to attack. Chuck Norris has never had to pay taxes. This year, however, the IRS sent him back a picture of Jack Bauer wearing his dark sunglasses. The next day, Chuck Norris pled guilty to multiple counts of tax evasion.



If Jack Bauer was gay, his name would be Chuck Norris.


When Jack Bauer is looking for a good laugh, he watches Chuck Norris work out on his Total Gym.


Chuck Norris once sent Jack Bauer a Total Gym. Jack promptly returned it with the bullet-ridden corpse of a terrorist, as well as a note that had been stapled to the man's chest. It read, "This is what I do to workout."


Season 5 of 24 was supposed to be Jack Bauer fighting Chuck Norris and Vin Diesel. This idea was abandoned when Jack defeated them and nothing else could be found to fill the other 23 hours and 59 minutes.



Chuck Norris wears a beard to hide the scar Jack Bauer gave him.



Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked Jack Bauer in the face. Jack blinked.



If Jack Bauer and Chuck Norris got into a fight, Chuck Norris would knock himself out so that Jack wouldn't touch him.

Thanks for the laugh, Peter!

Chuck's action Jeans "won't bind your legs."

Hmn, when my mother bought my jeans she shopped for action jeans that WOULD BIND MY LEGS (together as tightly as possible)!!!


Sorry mom, they didn't work:)

like many superstitious, right-wing,swollen-headed loudmouths chuck avoided vietnam....at least i didn't see him there.....nor did anyone else stumble into his foxhole that i know of either....but i am sure he would love to send my daughter to fight some perceived darker-than-he-skinned enemy...just slap a flag on her ass as a target,send her somewhere, and go back to his real thumping of bibles,and fake thumping of people....FUCK chuck

imaskeptic,

Chuck Norris joined the Air Force in 1958 and was stationed in Korea. That's where he first learned Karate.

He's still a jackass.

It's painful to read his link about how the founding fathers would want American voters to vote for Christian politicians. Never mind that most of them were either atheists or deists; Thomas Paine even wrote a critique about the Bible. It's certainly not something most Americans want to remember!

Comment from: thegoodatheist

Never mind that most of them were either atheists or deists;

Tell a lie often enough and you'll believe it...

Chuck Norris is not a person that should be emulated. Christians really should have more respect for themselves.

chuck does realize the soviet union is no more right?

Tell a lie often enough and you'll believe it...

Ironic coming from you, phreedm.

hehehe thanks for update how could anyone know that much history about chuck norris? i stand corrected :)

who cares if he isn't brilliant, he is an icon. I was watching the news the other night and i saw a segment on the military and it said that telling Chuck Norris Facts was one thing that kept them entertained (the call it up-chucking). Its not necessarily the truth but it is fun to do.