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and has a bone fragment which really appears to have belonged to a Jesus, brother of James, Son of Joseph, and husband to Mary Magdalene.

My older brother has entire skeletons in marked graves in his backyard. The headstones read Elvis, Lisa Marie and Priscilla. I think that burying them with their last Nylabones was a nice touch.

I would like to know what the other 6.3% of my ass is doing, or is that the part where the hole is cut out?

Also, maybe Jesus had a rocket staging failure on his ascent and he had to eject in low earth orbit; consequently, perhaps he never made it off of this planet, but rather crash landed somewhere in Roswell, NM some 2000 years later and so the faith based organizations in the government had to cover it up. Perhaps that Jesus bone is a remnant of that crash.

quantum_flux:

I tried as hard as I could to disprove your roswell-jesus theory, but since I couldn't I'm going to have to accept it as divine truth and start a new religion.

this will be the first new religion since last week when my room mate hypothesized that ghosts are responsible for all the socks that go missing at our (haunted) laundromat.

It was mighty nice of Jesus to ascend into Heaven-- if he hadn't, can you just imagine the wars that would have been fought over possession of the True Bones?

Also it's nice to know that chimpanzees are evolving into the Stone Age and that the Atheist literature was taken. OFF TOPIC: I actually went to a Christian church service Sunday-- the big Methodist Church downtown was dedicating its new $2 million organ. The music was nice, but I've had all I can take of praying and praising Jesus for a while. What a relief to come home and visit American Atheists and the NoGodBlog!

Sam Moore

I actually went to a Christian church service Sunday-

Did you get any on you?

BushCo has destroyed the US. We are all fucked!

Maybe the bone is that of Muhammad who finally didn't ascend into heaven on a flying horse.

Here is another bit of lunacy. A religious guy gives up his job to please his church.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/15/hasidic-actor-walks-off-n_n_91675.html

"I am backing out of the movie," said Karpen, a kitchen cabinet salesman. "It's not acceptable in my community. It's a lot of pressure I am getting. They [the rabbis] didn't like the idea of a Hasidic guy playing in Hollywood.

"I have my kids in religious schools and the rabbi called me over yesterday and said in order for me to keep my kids in the school I have to do what they tell me and back out," Karpen said.

I did a search on your site "God loves you" and the result is none.

I heard a story when I was young, a cock was tried to do its daily duty and decided not to wake up the sun that day, as it thought that it had been doing all along. He was surprised that the sun arise as usual not matter what it does.

When time is right, you may see God is always there, no matter what you think. It is just pity that you seem don't know God loves you too.

"For whosoever believe in HIS name while he is living should not be perished but have everlasting life."

"Today, when you heard the voice from God, don't harden your heart, for HE loves you."

Yours sincerely

Robbing

Is English your first language?

It looks like the xians are farming out their evangelizing to overseas labor. That's very rethuglican of them.

Bernarda

I read the article. What a sick little society the jews have.

robbing

Did you look to see if the easter bunny loves me too?

Did you look to see if the easter bunny loves me too?

Ron, thanks for the 'easter bunny' segue....

And for Robbing...
Silly rabbit, myths are for kids!
http://www.danaellyn.com/3_08/myth.jpg

Robbing's comments on the 'god loves you' topic brought me to thinking of something similar. During casual conversations with strangers over the years, more than once I've been faced with them ending the conversation with "may god bless you" or some other similar nonsense. I always feel like responding with 'no thanks' or 'no need, i don't believe in god' but usually choose to just let it pass. Does anyone have a good set answer they give in this situation?

Comment from: What [Member]
BushCo has destroyed the US. We are all fucked!

Here we have a prime example of a little mind expressing the true nature of atheism...

You don't have to be an atheist to see the bush presidency for the absolute failure that it is, phreedum.
Even his religious right supporters have abandoned him in droves and his approval rating is nearly in the twenties.

...with a prime example of a religiously insane closed little pea brain expressing the true nature of christianity and burying its head in the hand upon the mention of owwwer grate gawdly leedur.

Thanks for giving us a prime example of what supersitious pagan cultists think about Putsch and the Republican't junta, phreakshow.

Suck it, jeebus phreak...

Comment from: robbing

I did a search on your site "God loves you" and the result is none.

It is good to see that you did some sort of research into what people talk about here.

Does this mean that you're going to try and discuss the topic of this post in a rational and productive manner?

I heard a story when I was young, a cock was tried to do its daily duty and decided not to wake up the sun that day, as it thought that it had been doing all along. He was surprised that the sun arise as usual not matter what it does.

I heard a bunch of stories when I was young, too. Mainly about an Invisibaly Sky Fairy and a Big Book of Christian Fairy Tales from my religiously insane father and the rest of his religiously insane family. Maybe you've heard the same ones from the religiously insane in your personal zone too?

When time is right, you may see God is always there, no matter what you think. It is just pity that you seem don't know God loves you too.

Guess I was right. When the time is right, you may see that your pagan occult superstitious nonsense is a big steaming pile of kimchee, nio matter what you think. It is just a pity that you don't seem to know your religiously insane fairy tales about gawd are nothing but a bunch of lies.

"For whosoever believe in HIS name while he is living should not be perished but have everlasting life."

"Today, when you heard the voice from God, don't harden your heart, for HE loves you."

"In Pasta's Name, Ramen"

"Today, really good free beer and prostitutes are waiting for you in heaven if His Noodly Appendage decides you are worthy."

Dana-
If it's a stranger, I say 'no thanks'. Interesting to see the look on their faces.
If it's a friend or relative, I usually let it slide and quickly move to something else.

Placenta-
Atheism has nothing to do with politics. There's plenty of conservative atheists out there, along with liberal ones, and many like me- independent.

And, by the way, BushCo is destroying this country. Wow, his approval rating is down to 19%! How does it feel to be one of the few mindless drones who follows this jackass?

19% approval rating? I thought it was like 30%? Wow-19%.

Happy St Patricks Day! (yeah I know it's a religious holiday but any excuse to get drunk and eat corned beef and cabbage is A-OK with me).

Hey Alex-
I forgot the link. Here it is:

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

phreedm,

All atheism is disbelief in a god or gods. Some, like myself, go further and argue that it does or should include a rejection of all the supernatural, like ghosts, fairies, and the like, but that is completely accepted idea.

However, anything else you attempt to attach to atheusm is mere projection on your part.

Even Nixon had a higher approval rating when he resigned than bush does now. Bwahahaha! stupid evangelical fuckwit.

Comment from: danaellyn

Robbing's comments on the 'god loves you' topic brought me to thinking of something similar. During casual conversations with strangers over the years, more than once I've been faced with them ending the conversation with "may god bless you" or some other similar nonsense. I always feel like responding with 'no thanks' or 'no need, i don't believe in god' but usually choose to just let it pass. Does anyone have a good set answer they give in this situation?

When they say "Thank Gawd" I usually answer "You're welcome!" They usually don't say it again...

When they say "gawd bless you" I usually reply "I'll get to that in a second." [pause for a second] "Bless you!" Again, it seems to stifle the expression of religiously insane sentiments in my general area. YMMV...

And only 14% approve of the way da Pres is running the economy.

In one month, half of the remaining people changed their minds about approval. Amazing.

That's a lot of empty seats on the old bandwagon. The remaining few must be looking around and feeling a little self conscious. At least, those that don't have self delusion mechanisms in place.

Won't it be great when polls say the same thing about religion? That's what it's like in Europe, these days. I was just reading how new subdivisions in Great Britain seldom have new churches built. Many churches there are being converted to other uses as the last of the faithful generations die off.

One of the pulpit masters was quoted as asking his predominantly white haired audience of women to try harder to get men to attend with them. I found the image of all the widows pursuing the few remaining old guys quite funny.

I was told "god bless" by some hickabilly fuckwit told me outside Kmart the other day as he was begging for handouts for some stinkin ministry. My response?? "your imaginary friend can't bless me or do any other thing to me or anyone else." Look on his face?? priceless.

Go Carol! LOL

I did a search on your site "God loves you" and the result is none.

That's fairly easy to explain: Jesus loves, God blesses. If you had searched for "Jesus loves you" or "God bless you", I'm sure you would have had plenty of hits.

I heard a story when I was young, a cock was tried to do its daily duty and decided not to wake up the sun that day, as it thought that it had been doing all along. He was surprised that the sun arise as usual not matter what it does.

Tornadoes touched down in Georgia this weekend, an event which occurs every few years. In Georgia, being killed by a tornado is like winning the lottery. Someone is likely to win, but the chances it will be you are essentially zero. So why worry about where the tornado is headed? My point is simply this, Robbing: you're going to die. Whether by knife, bullet, natural, or old age, you're going to die. You're the rooster, Robbing. You're trying your damnest to find a way out of the inevitable and you've latched on to Christianity like its a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean. Problem is, while the rooster believed the sun rose because he crowed, he soon discovered his beliefs had nothing to do with fact.

When time is right, you may see God is always there, no matter what you think. It is just pity that you seem don't know God loves you too.

Death is coming Robbing, no matter what you believe. Its a kindness of sorts that you will die without being disappointed.

Phreeky will keep supporting BushCo until his preacher tells him to stop. Then, without missing a beat he will stop and not another word of it will be mentioned.

Nice post KIP

In particular this:

Death is coming Robbing, no matter what you believe. Its a kindness of sorts that you will die without being disappointed.

Well said.

Occasionally, the cogs of my mind mesh in a precise way, a feeling of correctness envelops me, as though the universe has shifted to bring about one moment of clarity, and something interesting flows from my fingertips.

Its a shame the feeling doesn't last.

Occasionally, the cogs of my mind mesh in a precise way, a feeling of correctness envelops me, as though the universe has shifted to bring about one moment of clarity, and something interesting flows from my fingertips.

That sounds like the work of Jesus' love. : )

Either that, or you've seen too many Cronenberg films.

McBush speaks about the economic crisis his dysfunctional economic ideology created:

"Bailouts always have intended consequences and unintended consequences," McCain said, noting that billions of dollars were "wasted" during a government-sponsored effort to help wind up insolvent savings and loan institutions during the 1980s and 1990s.

He fails to mention that HE was at the center of the S and L corruption. Can you say Keating Five senator?

Either that, or you've seen too many Cronenberg films.

You're going to have to explain that reference to me. I had to look him up and I doubt that I've seen more than two of his films.

KIP,

The mental image I had was of a mysterious moment of clarity where something gooey and malevolent is excreted from your figures in a twitchy spasm of supernatural ecstasy... very Cronenberg — something akin to the movie Videodrome. (Probably showing a little too much of my geekie side)

That's not exactly what I had in mind, but an...interesting...image all the same.

: )

Comment from: DVanWechel

Occasionally, the cogs of my mind mesh in a precise way, a feeling of correctness envelops me, as though the universe has shifted to bring about one moment of clarity, and something interesting flows from my fingertips.

That sounds like the work of Jesus' love. : )

Actually, it reminded me more of this:

Hedley Lamarr: My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Taggart: Gol darnit Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

Now...you've all missed the point...

Comment from: What
BushCo has destroyed the US. We are all fucked!

Here we have a prime example of a little mind expressing the true nature of atheism...

Atheism does not allow one to agree with the founding concept of our great nation. And that is...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

While an atheist generally agrees that we all have these rights, their source is what's challenged. Therefore, by default an atheist believes that rights come from the "state"...

It is also for this reason that an atheist will bake the claim that the Dec of Independence is not a founding document...

"What" is a prime example of an individual believing the government has all of "his" answers and needs...as is evident by his comment...

And that when times are trying, he's lost...basically showing the "soft white underbelly" of atheism...and that is having "no Hope"...

Comment from: Boise Jim

I forgot the link. Here it is:

http://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/

The Amerian Research Group...?

Oh yeah...Hillary helped found it and it's financed by Soros...what a surprise...

One thing it leaves out...the publics view of congress is even lower...

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/CongJob.htm

Phreeky's mind is one twisted place to be. Dare I say much like a bowl of spaghetti noodles.

Forgive me FSM.

Phreedm,

While an atheist generally agrees that we all have these rights, their source is what's challenged. Therefore, by default an atheist believes that rights come from the "state"...

Disagree. To an atheist that agrees with the principals of democracy, Rights come from society (society being the ultimate driving force behind the government, at least until the Bush-thoritarians stole the government). There is not reason to believe that Rights come from your invisible friend.

It is also for this reason that an atheist will bake the claim that the Dec of Independence is not a founding document...

This depends on how you define "founding document." The Declaration only asserts a dissolution between the pre-USA and the British government, it does not lay out the basis of our democracy. In that way it could be called a "founding document" since it paved the way for the Constitution. But it did not set up a system of government.

"What" is a prime example of an individual believing the government has all of "his" answers and needs...as is evident by his comment...

I think this is a wild leap of reasoning, please explain it.

And that when times are trying, he's lost...basically showing the "soft white underbelly" of atheism...and that is having "no Hope"...
This doesn't make any sense, so I'll just say this: If atheism has a "soft white underbelly" then why haven't you cut it open yet?

Blockquoted!

And that when times are trying, he's lost...basically showing the "soft white underbelly" of atheism...and that is having "no Hope"...

This doesn't make any sense, so I'll just say this: If atheism has a "soft white underbelly" then why haven't you cut it open yet?

Alatham

"Soft"? "White? "Under belly"?

Do we really need to discuss Phreeky's sexual dysfunction on this blog?

Isn't it interesting to see how a religiously insane Republican't Putsch fellator would presume to define those who he knows nothing about?

Also, alatham, I would slightly disagree with your statement

I think this is a wild leap of reasoning, please explain it.

in that you give some sort of credence for the idea that some sort of rational thought process in going on in phreakshow's religiously insane melon. Occasionally the irrational religiously insane ravings coming from this direction vaguely resemble rational thought, similar to animals sometimes mimicking human characteristics.

What and tom,

Touché.

Therefore, by default an atheist believes that rights come from the "state"...

Wouldn't the default atheist position for ALL issues but one be null?

AOL

I don't understand your question.

AOL,

Wouldn't the default atheist position for ALL issues but one be null?

I realize this is probably rhetorical, but yes, atheism asserts nothing except the disbelief in deities. Aside from that little bit, there is no default atheistic position on any other topic.

That Phreedm willfully continues to disagree is both bizarre and telling.

I'm saying that all issues (except for possibly the existence question), the default atheist position would be null. For non-computer geeks, null is the equivalent of "no answer".

So, for example, the default atheist position on secularism vs. theocracy would be nothing. You could have atheists who believes in a secular government. You could have a few who believe were still better off with a theocracy. Or perhaps one believes that all religions should be suppressed. Again, the default position is "no position".

Phreedm incorrectly states that because atheists don't believe human rights come from a creator, atheists must therefore believe the rights comes from the state.

Alatham offers up society as the source. I could offer up "man", in the sense that "man" itself is the creator of human rights. These people have collectively dictated to our state what those rights should be.

Or whatever.

Don't get too tied up in that rambling. The point I was simply trying to make is that atheists don't have default positions on anything.

Except the FSM question, perhaps. All atheists agree on that one, right?

That Phreedm willfully continues to disagree is both bizarre and telling.

I've noticed he has a habit of telling us what we believe.

We all believe in creation. So say we all!

AOL,

I agree with you here. But I did qualify my statement by saying that atheists who agree with the principals of democracy believe that Rights come from society.

That said, I now believe I was wrong to say that because I can imagine someone who agrees with democracy and still thinks that rights come from some other place (perhaps they're currently hard-wired into the average person's DNA, for instance).

I could have left the word "atheists" out of my statement and it would still be just as wrong because I think I was wrong about the nature of democracy, not because my statement had anything to do with atheism (as you and I agree).

AOL

The point I was simply trying to make is that atheists don't have default positions on anything.

OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Ramen

On the question of the origin of rights I would say this. Define "origin" and "rights".

Comment from: Angel_Of_Light

I'm saying that all issues (except for possibly the existence question), the default atheist position would be null. For non-computer geeks, null is the equivalent of "no answer".

Maybe that's why this comes so easily for me - as a computer geek, I have had to correct code that treated null (no answer) and zero (answer : nothing) as the same, and then blew up when it received null instead of zero.

New (to me!) hypothesis:

Christians have not coded their internal software to notice the difference - because both zero and null create the same errors in their systems (the only acceptable answers to christians do not include 'atheism' and 'agnosticism'). This might also help explain why they are so resistant to any software upgrades in this area.

Tom

Interesting hypothesis. Maybe its a hardware rather than software problem.

So Dave goes to Sci-FICTION convention, to hang out with people who love FICTION stories about technology beyond our own and then wants to tell us what he learned at a FICTION convention.

You might as well boast about what you learned while playing Dungeons and Dragons. D&D, that ties right in to the Aims & Purposes of American Atheists just like Science FICTION conventions. Please dedicate a blog entry about what you learned at the restroom at a NJ Turnpike rest stop area - it will be just as relevant.

And does Dave dress up like Spock, ears and all when he goes to these conventions?

SecularMan,

Here's a video from the convention. Wow, Dave looks like John Lovitz!

http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=139313

Hehe.